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Matthew Munro
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.18 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Munro on 18/10/2006 14:54:49
Originally by: evistin
TS/Vent SeverHacking Website Hacking/Attacks Denial of Serivce attacks Stealing of passwords to read other peoples mail, etc etc.
All of these are illegal, if you were stupid enough to try any of these, you better know what you are doing else enjoy you time in jail. The legal system is quite harse on "hacking" yet doesn't care if CEO scam millions.
Also unless you are very skilled, social engineering is so much easier, and fun 
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Matthew Munro
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Munro on 18/10/2006 15:01:32
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Actually i dont even see the point of having a spy on another TS simply becuase it takes the fun out of pvp.. Whats the fun in pvp if you knwo what the other side gonna do??
However many people actually do that and im consider them cowards and incompetent..
Spies are much more effective than just information, what about moral? When a alliance works out it has a actual spy then the paranoia sets in, comms have to be more restricted, poeples confidence is reduced.
Why fight a enemy head on if you can destroy him from within first?
It's a darker side to eve I've never dabbled in and I think exist more times than not in the minds of people
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Matthew Munro
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Yes you will destroy them from within its very easy however you not using game mechanics so basically you destroying something by going outside EVE and current game mechanics, again whats the fun in that??
If you wanna win at all cost go ahead however you only fooling youself becuase it has nothing todo with the game..
But if an alliance is using TS they are already using something that has nothing to do with the game. Ditto on the forums. At that stage I'm not sure you're really going outside the game.
As for the fun, I don't see it personally but I'm sure some do.
--------------------------------- Targeting: RA Safespots :twisted:
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Matthew Munro
Gallente Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: FireFoxx80
If the 'hacker' in question has been given the TS/website/account/email password in question; then the corp doesn't have a leg to stand on. Espionage is a modern-day occurance, countries do it, corporations do it; why shouldn't it happen in Eve? I am sure it'd make a very nice Phd thesis.
Well he did say hacked, implied either a brute force or other form of system compromised beyond been given the password.
Originally by: FireFoxx80
However, if the person brute-forces a password or whatver, then it is illegal. Certainly in the UK it would be covered under the Computer Misuse act. However there are very few legal cases where someone has hacked a TS/Vent/Game login to gain what is essentially virtual 'currency' (in one form or another) - how do you define virtual theft?
You don't have to in australia afaik. The simple act of attemping to hack a server is a criminal offence.
Originally by: FireFoxx80
Of course, the other old classic is social engineering. There's that survey where 8/10 people gave up their personal details for a free coffee+donut.
Does not surprise me in the slightest, number of people at work when I say "you need to change your password" who then procede to tell me their current password and the one they want is staggering!
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